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Does Toronto need another NHL team?
Fri, June 5, 2009

By TERRY KOSHAN, SUN MEDIA

A Toronto group wants to leave its Legacy with the National Hockey League.

Calling it a pie-in-the-sky idea might be a safer bet.

Andrew Lopez, creator of the Toronto Legacy Group, unveiled an ambitious NHL expansion team plan today at a downtown restaurant, one that would be called the Toronto Legacy, play in a proposed 30,000-seat arena at Downsview Park and give 25% of its annual net profits to charities across Canada.

Half of the tickets in the rink, which is part of a plan that would include an Olympic swimming pool, office towers and a hotel, would be sold for no more than $50 a game.

Lopez said the group already has lined up $1 billion in financing.

Do you think this bid, or any other bid, could bring a second NHL team to Toronto? Does the Greater Toronto Area need another team? Have your say in our forum.

Another team in T.O.?



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Toronto has about 4m people in that area (Canadian people, so higher percentage into hockey). Southern Ontario's arrow has at least another 6m Canadians, also untapped. They have over a third of Canada's population and one team. They not only could support another Toronto team, they can support a Hamilton one as well, and it would make for some pretty darn interesting rivalries.

As for the "Buffalo" zone, that's redundant. Few Canadians actually cross the border to support an American hockey club. That argument doesn't even fly.
MJR, 2009-06-06 07:02:51

The NHL isn't going to have expansion as long as there is 5-6 teams with problems. Talk of another team in TO is just that talk, it isn't going to happen. The league is at maxiumum capacity which means teams will either move or fold. If Hamilton is a long shot, than another team in Toronto is even more so. Having a team in the Kitchener area (which i don't think would ever happen) would be a problem for the Leafs just as much as Hamilton would be and is highly unlikely.
brian, 2009-06-05 23:29:00

Seems like this have group has great intentions, but for a variety of reasons, they don't have a chance.

1. The Leafs are going to do everything they can to block any competition within their territory. (There's a lot more to be said about the Leafs.)

2. The NHL is not strong enough for expansion. There are too many struggling teams and not enough talent to go around.

3. The ticket pricing scheme is far-fetched. Even with a larger arena, it doesn't make any sense. The NHL (particularly in Canada) isn't interested in providing affordable ticket prices to hockey fans. If you want affordable, then you have to look to the AHL or the OHL.

There are more reasons; maybe you have something else that I didn't. But needless to say, this one's not going to happen.
RCK, 2009-06-05 23:22:42

Toronto could probably support another team, but I don't see this proposal flying. *Maybe* another team in southern Ontario, but not in the greater Toronto area. I certainly don't see a 30,000 seat arena being built - that's almost 50% larger than the biggest NHL arena today.
PKT, 2009-06-05 19:35:22

gordholio is sounding a bit bitter. He must be a disgruntled Leaf fan who wants everyone to be as miserable as he is.

Toronto or at least southern Ontario has to and will get another team. Whether it's this Legacy group or whether it's Balsillie's bid, it doesn't really matter. But it will happen and the team will sell out every game. Most people don't even try to go to Leaf games because they know tickets just aren't available. I'm in charge of getting Leaf tickets for games in Montreal because it's easier to travel six hours east to see them play. So how is it "iffy" that a team could succeed in such an underserviced market?
Rick W., 2009-06-05 14:52:47

So that would make three teams in Ontario! Seems a bit much to me. And two teams in T.O. is over kill. The way the market is today that new team wouldn't last 10 years. Teams in the prairies sounds like a good idea, and one that I would support, but financially the NHL would not consider for the small amount of money it would genarate.

NHL is one greedy machine and Canada does not meet it's criteria. It's sad but that's today reality folks. So where would be the best place for a new NHL team?

Unfortunately not in Canada.

My guess is anywhere in the U.S. (excluding Phoenix). Sad but true...
dvil9, 2009-06-05 14:50:33

Well, shouldn't Toronto be entitled to one whinning...oops, I meant to say winning team. Afterall its a fait de complete that the Leafs will never even make the playoffs again.
Disgruntledfan, 2008-11-29 08:06:00

Toronto will never get another NHL team. This is a story made up by the media; they must have overheard two NHL owners mentioning it very briefly or something, just as an idea.

The NHL isn't talking about this in any formal way and never will.

Toronto is a Maple Leafs town; another team wouldn't cut it and it would be very iffy if the games could draw a lot of people.

Toronto has one team; be happy with that and don't get greedy!
gordholio, 2008-11-12 09:04:52

No they should not get another team. If any place deserves a team it is Seattle, WA or Portland, OR. The Northwest is an untapped resource and hockey is increasing out here. We have had two new event centers built around WHL hockey league within the last 5 years one for the Everett Silvertips and and a new one opening at the end of the year for the Seattle Thunderbirds. The closest NHL team is the Vancouver Canucks and it is difficult getting across the border these days and it is only going to be more complicated when we are required to show our passports at the border. Please bring NHL to the Northwest!
Mitzy, 2008-11-06 11:56:29

I say Saskatoon, Winnepeg, and Halifax before a 2nd T.O team. Spread it out among all of the Canadian hockey fans.
Peaks, 2008-11-06 00:45:37

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