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Are the Leafs pulling off good moves?
Mon, November 24, 2008

The Maple Leafs have traded Carlo Colaicovo and Alex Steen to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for forward Lee Stempniak.

Stempniak, 25, a native of West Seneca, N.Y., scored 27 goals two seasons ago.

This season, he has three goals and 10 assists through 14 games.

Is this a good move for the Leafs? Have your say in our forum.

Colaiacovo, Steen dealt to Blues



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Sorry Peter..honorable mistake of identity of my part.

Don't get me wrong though..i'm not,by any means defending any players,especially not Neil,for any hits,at any time,let it be legal, border-line legal,or simply a dirty play.That's not what my comment was about.I only have one word to describe such a pathetic reaction to another human being's downfall...KARMA.


Joe Meloche, 2008-04-04 12:05:41

What now for the Leafs?

The links, just like every other spring

Why don't you people in Toronto get behind the Raps or Jays - teams that actually try to win?
Barry Benson, 2008-04-04 11:25:28

Even when the leafs are done, more about the Leafs. Losing 8-2 on their last game tells you all you need to know about the Leafs, or want to know, give it a rest,PLEEEEASE...
Ed, 2008-04-04 10:47:22

I am inclined to agree with you Joe. i just read this remark...

"Murray said Fisher has a knee injury while Alfredsson has head and knee injuries. Murray said both injuries were "significant" and maintained a hit by Mark Bell in the first period was dirty."

THIS IS HOW TORONTO PLAYS. They knew they would not make the playoffs and decided to be "Dogs in the manger" about it and take away Ottawa's chances of making it too. In all the years I watched the Bruins, I don't think I've seen such consistency as I have in the last few years with the leafs of how much they are SORE LOSERS. Not that I had alot of respect for Toronto, but clearly anyone who supports that team to the degree they boo the star player in his own Home arena or wherever he is hurt lying on the ice. Those people have no class. In fact i would compare all those fans to be sub-human. Toronto truly does NOT deserve to make the playoffs (much less the Stanley Cup) ever again until they clean that team up once and for all. I wouldn't be surprised if you see fist fights in Ottawa next season went the leafs play in town. Maybe that should happen for the league to take some real action.


Gerry Madden, 2008-04-04 10:42:25

well, Joel i hate to disagree with you, but i'm not Pete who has an ongoing "argument" with George. interesting to hear your assesment on leafs fans. it's just funny that when bonehead Neil takes out Drury or that guy from the Briuns it's fine but god forbid somebody dares to touch an ottawa player.
Peter, 2008-04-04 10:39:44

Well, George and Peter,so much for the "nail in the coffin" theory.Relieving to read that you two finally agree on something though.

After watching the 8-2 trashing last night,what lil'respect I had for the leafs,and especially theirs "fans",has gonne out the window.Even the announcers couldn't believe what they were hearing.I don't care who a player is,nor who he plays for...cheering when an opponent is obviously injured,and in pain,goes to show you just how pathetic and clueless leafers are.This team,and their cheering "fans" deserve each others.CLASSLESS at it's best.
Joe Meloche, 2008-04-04 10:06:39

Nice analysis Darren. I agree with most of what you say, including the Toskala situation. In fact, he might just bring them back the bigger return, along with Ponikarovsky, who has the size some teams are seeking and still some upside.

Antropov has size too but is slower than a pregnant water buffalo and always on the injured list. Still, they might get a 2nd rounder for him.

As for the rest, at the risk of repeating myself, name me one team that would be willing to take on the lengths and price of those contracts. There is no chance in Hell anyone would take Blake with 4 years still to go at $16 million. Not with his medical condition, never mind his average lack of production outside of one career year.

McCabe is not anywhere near a premier D, and while he'd be a good addition at maybe $2 or $2.5, no one is going to fork over in the range of $5 mil for him. Kubina MIGHT be attractive to someone, but again, that's a lot of money and a long-term commitment for someone who never seems prepared to play an 82-game schedule. I notice you didn't mention Tucker, perhaps because you think he should be retained. Or maybe you realize he too is someone who can't be dealt due to his age, dwindling production, and hefty contract for someone who is, at best, a 4th liner.

But to buy these guys out (they can't be sent down - each has a no movement clause) would put a serious crimp in their ability to attract some decent, younger RFAs and UFAs, so it seems they'll have to live with them until at least the final years of their contracts.

I totally agree with the Sundin views. I can't see him agreeing to come back for another year at a further discount - bot when he's still the best player on the roster - and they simply can't afford to be forking over $5 to $6 million for a 38 y/o with a trick hip while in a re-building mode.

So, yes, put a team of younger players out there with the McCabes, Blakes, Tuckers, etc. and live with the consequences. In the end, it might result in getting a shot at Tavares.
George O'Leary, 2008-04-04 08:57:10

Start by saying before the season starts that they are going to start to rebuild the team. Trade away Antropov, Ponikarosky, Blake, Kubina and McCabe. Take any thing you can get for them even mid round draft picks to start clearing salary off the books and stock up on draft picks.

Let Sundin walk away unless he takes close to a 50 % pay cut, if not good bye and thank you for what you did for the Leafs.

Let it be known that Toskala is available for the right price to. Since the Leafs probably wont make the playoffs again next year there isnt a need for a number 1 goalie like him, there are other goalies that can fill in if Pogge isnt ready next year Leafs could get something really good for him the way he played especially the last half of the season. He was without question the team MVP. Also he is around 30 I believe so he wouldnt be in his prime when the Leafs are cup contenders in a few years if they hire a GM like Burke that has full control of the hockey department and wont have to answer to anyone especially that buttinski Peddie.

It would really be worth it to trade away the " core " of this team that has missed the playoffs 3 straight years now and get top 5 draft picks for a few years like Pittsburgh did. Of course this all depends on getting a experienced GM that can be a good judge of kids playing junior.


Darren, 2008-04-04 00:00:10

What now for the Leafs?

Golf of course, thats after they knock the Sens out tonight. Better get the fire trucks ready in TO, alot of Sens fans are gonna be burnin tonight if the Leafs take em out!!
Mike, 2008-04-03 12:10:28

george, i hope that's exactly what they are going to do!
Peter, 2008-04-02 12:06:37

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