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Are the Leafs pulling off good moves?
Mon, November 24, 2008

The Maple Leafs have traded Carlo Colaicovo and Alex Steen to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for forward Lee Stempniak.

Stempniak, 25, a native of West Seneca, N.Y., scored 27 goals two seasons ago.

This season, he has three goals and 10 assists through 14 games.

Is this a good move for the Leafs? Have your say in our forum.

Colaiacovo, Steen dealt to Blues


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you think this is going to help? how 'bout trading the team to basille ... he might spend some cash and get some quality players
tony d, 2008-11-24 17:58:32

Again, the root of the problem is that the leaf scouting staff is not good at recognizing talent. It is embarrassing when TWO players drafted in the first round are traded for one drafted in 5th (or is it 6th) round. These two first round picks occurred before JFJ was GM. It was either Pat Quinn or Mike Smith, two of the worst GMs in hockey history. Pat Quinn is a great coach though.
Bill Ross, 2008-11-24 17:40:42

I don't see how this move can hurt. Coliacovo, has he really provided much depth within the leafs, same with Steen. I don't see whats threatening about them both. However, it is in a way gutsey. Take a look at some of the trades that have gone bad within the last couple years, the biggest one being Blake. Now, the leafs are trying to get rid of those kinds of guys who they recently acqiured. As a fan of the leafs all 12 years of my life, hopefully the wind of change is upon us. Stempniak, You better get on the good side of toronto fans, fast!!
daninator34, 2008-11-24 16:23:26

Yes this is a GOOD move. We got rid of and mr.bust. Some Leafs keep saying Steen has "untapped" offensive potential. PLEASE. Steen is a 3rd liner, a defensive forward.
B, 2008-11-24 16:03:35

Unless Burke engineered the Stempniak for Colaiacovo/Steen deal from behind the scenes, this is another steal for Old Cliff.

Colaiacovo is perpetually on the DL and Steen couldn't find the Pacific Ocean from the end of a pier in San Francisco.

That can only benefit the Leafs over the course of the rest of this season.
Gary O., 2008-11-24 14:27:49

This seems like another shrewd move. The next two weeks will tell.
Daninator34, 2008-11-24 14:20:05

I guess being a voice on Leaf Nation means you have to remain positive however bleak is the situation and toe the party line. Jody Vance says in a recent column “The Great One has been-here-done-that with Cliff Fletcher in Phoenix and wants fans in Toronto to know, even though things seem dim headed into this season, there is light at the end of the tunnel - and a great hockey man is at the helm ... Fletcher brings to the table a level of honesty rarely seen in pro sports -- he isn't afraid to say what he is doing and why.”

Well, for starters, isn’t this the same man the Leafs fired when he was at least a decade younger, and who was also recently let go by Phoenix? The fact is, he has never been able to adjust to an NHL where you can no longer just buy what you need regardless of the cost. A slow building process is needed, and you don’t do that by giving up 7 future picks for people of questionable ability. Nor do you trade away someone like Brian McCabe despite his defensive shortcomings just to free up some salary. Certainly not when you then sign a guy (Finger) who has played 92 sporadic games in the NH: for about $500,000 less than you were paying McCabe! It just doesn’t add up.

Sure, he speaks his mind. That's the benefit of being a curmudgeon who doesn't care what everyone else thinks. That is refreshing. But it doesn't make up for his lack of understanding as to how the "new NHL" functions.
Gary O., 2008-09-16 17:31:36

Now that we have seen the rookies perform, losing to Pens and Sens, lets just say that there is very little talent in this sad sack organization. Clearly JFJ's incredible ineptitude will take at least 3 years to purge from the system. Time won't heal everything and until Peddie is replaced and Morrison and Mike Penny are fired, the same mistakes will keep repeating themselves. These three guys can't assess hockey talent and their decisions are consistently wrong.

Indeed, even Fletch has made some suspect moves parting with 7 draft choices for very little in return. There is no light at the end of the tunnel - no talent in the minors and a bunch of 3rd stringers on the Laffs.
This is a bad organization, 2008-09-15 08:24:27

I wondered when some columnist would toss out the yearly "ray of hope" claptrap annually associated with the Leafs prospects for an upcoming season in spite of how dismal the teams looks.

This is done, and often early like this, with the idea that, if the team works some kind of minor miracle and performs well enough to squeek into the playoffs, that columnist can go back the article and crow "see - I was the only one to write that there may be more substance there than meets the eye." If the team bombs, few it any will remember an positive article written in September.

This year it's Lance Hornby who offers the hint (Are Leafs Better Than GM Lets On? - Sept 13).

I doubt very much that Mr. Hornby will be reminding us of his column come next spring.
Gary O., 2008-09-14 09:30:13

Fletch is a puzzle. Says again today Laffs are rebuilding and has warned that his team will struggle this year. Can't see anything wrong with him pointing out the obvious but why trade away so many draft picks for marginal players? If so little is expected of Grabovski why trade two picks to get him? MCabe should have been traded for a draft pick. Instead Cliffhanger adds a draft pick to get a non-impact player. Prediction: McCabe does far better this year than last and Van Ryn struggles in Laffland. Wouldn't it have been better to trade players like Ponikarovsky and Colaiacovo for draft picks? Memo to Fletch: to rebuild in this day and age tear a page out of the Bolts or Sens handbook.
RB, 2008-09-12 18:52:25

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