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Are the Leafs pulling off good moves?
Mon, November 24, 2008

The Maple Leafs have traded Carlo Colaicovo and Alex Steen to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for forward Lee Stempniak.

Stempniak, 25, a native of West Seneca, N.Y., scored 27 goals two seasons ago.

This season, he has three goals and 10 assists through 14 games.

Is this a good move for the Leafs? Have your say in our forum.

Colaiacovo, Steen dealt to Blues


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Giving Up- We are on the same page with most of your comments. The Mayers trade instantly gave my gut the feeling that Tucker was on his way out- and today it is pretty much confirmed. I enjoy Tucker and his style of play and hate to see him go. He will help some team for sure. The message is clear for me by Fletcher- he brings in a player of Mayers stature to replace Tucker's exit- and the intangibles Mayer brings in the dressing room. Mayers has a very good reputation in the dressing room and it is necessary to keep that in mind. It matters. Raycroft and Wellwood are no suprises here. With Wellwood it is more does he lack the inner spirit or is it rather a player that doesn't fit into Wilson's system. We all know of Raycroft's situation and Fletcher is doing what he can to rectify that issue. I think there are a few other roster players that need changed but that may come via trades. The journeymen players on last years roster, in my opinion, are done. My gut also tells me that if Sundin is gone, then Antropov is gone as well via trade. The main issue for this team will be who are the starting centers.....right now it is a very rough roster spot. Fletcher is positioning this team to have dollars by July 1st. However I am not sure if they will spend it on free agents or put out offer sheets. No matter what, if the youth movement is in full force veteran leadership is necessary. And yes you don't have to remind me about Tom Kurvers- I remember Floyd Smith making that stupid trade. What a putz. And another stupid trade was getting rid of Jason Smith but that had to do with him and Quinn's system. We can talk all day and night about dumb trades made by Leafs brass. And unfortunately for Cliff Fletcher, trades are his achilles heel because he can't use his assets because JFJ tied his hands with contracts and no movement clauses so he has to re-tool the roster by a different way. As of today, and this can change in an hour, the only roster spots I see as secure belong to Kubina, McCabe, Kaberle, Stralman, Steen, Stajan, Tlusty, Toskala and Mayers. The others I would categorize as players that would be involved in trades, buyouts or replaced by youth. The only players that the Leafs have a value in trading are Kaberle, Antropov and Ponikarovsky and Blake (hefty contract/age) to some degree. Kaberle and Toskala- in my opinion are the only untouchables on this team. I do see these names in Toronto next year-Jeff Carter, Wheeler, Schenn (for some part of the season)and Jeremy Williams. I might be way off base with the roster spots but look at what we have to start with and the circumstances with this team. I'd be going way out on a limb to suggest that high profile names are headed this way via Free agency. And just a wild thought here...It wouldn't suprise me to see Jarrod Stoll in TO either if Edmonton and Fletch can agree on a trade. The Free Agency period is almost here and the fun begins. Or will it for the Buds?
DM, 2008-06-24 23:48:02

The Leafs are going to be stuck with a lot of the past and it will be hard to completely build over fast. So...



Wellwood-Blake-Free Agent

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Cost Approx 43.75 leaving about 12.25M with the new cap. I would go after Ryan Malone or Radim Vrbata to fill the FA position (both young with game). Having now brought in Mayer, Tucker is out - someone will want him. Don't argue for Pogge - not ready yet.

You have to keep Sundin for leadership and 76 points (unless you really do want to be last).
Who Knows, 2008-06-24 19:07:10

Hey, now that Raycroft is out on waivers the make me laugh's can sign Emery. he'd fit right in with Tucker & McCabe.
Mike, 2008-06-24 16:54:13

Toronto has made some pretty bad moves over the last few years. Not trading Mcabe when he was about to be a free agent and then signing Kubina for that monster contract. Nonetheless, the leafs have some good parts and they need to get a little lucky like other teams have. The league is so dependent on speed and the Leafs really suffer in this department, which ultimately will cost them until they can turn that around. The leafs need some real quality forwards, the forwards they currently have are mostly 3rd and 4th liners (with the exception of a few who could be 2nd liners. They are strong in net and they have a possibility of having a strong "D" core.

RJ, 2008-06-24 16:04:47

All I know is most of you writing comments need to go back to school and learn grammar & spelling. What the hell is wrong with the lot of you ?
den, 2008-06-24 16:03:15

DM, one other thing. Schenn was not a planned target. They said that they would have taken whichever of the Big 4 D was available. The best player avail at the moment I think were Fletcher's words. I also have a real problem when the guy stating that this is such a great move is Pierre Mcguire - another mouth that roared. I guess that is two things.
Giving Up, 2008-06-24 15:19:10

DM, I'll give you Orr but he was the most offensive defenceman in NHL history and was already being seen as the future when signed by Boston scouts at 12 (!!). I'm not sure that Boston really built a team around him but with the huge trade to bring in Esposito a year after Orr saw their opportunity to move out of last place and challenge for the Cup. As for New Jersey, they didn't build around any one defenceman. They built for a system - the trap - and were very fortunate to pick up Brodeur, Niedermayer and Stevens (as compensation from St Louis for Shanahan) all within 12 months. Good scouting and drafting - yes (and some luck). But Toronto is not NJ then or now. Of note Niedermayer was picked 3rd with a draft pick that NJ got from ??? You guessed it - Toronto (for Tom Kurvers). Schenn is a big stay at home defenceman. And you are right Toronto has not had one with this talent potential for a while. But the last one they had they traded away for a 2nd and 4th pick that became Jonathan Zion and Kris Vernarsky (who???). That guy was Jason Smith who has since done what - captained two teams. Jamal Mayers for leadership? You're kidding right? TML are in a lot of trouble if this is what that move was picked up for. This guy is a career 3rd line winger who has 70 goals in 10 years and who was a -19 last year - 7 worse then any current Leaf and 2nd worst on his team! What a steal for 1.2M! Even today as Fletcher puts Wellwood on waivers after a weak year one can't help but groan. Will Wellwood (speed, puck sense, good vision, great passing, young) be the Leafs latest Steve Sullivan? Probably use his cap space to pick up Gary Roberts (as part of the Fletcher youth movement).
Giving Up, 2008-06-24 15:12:38

why did they put Kyle Wellwood on waivers? He was one of the better players
centre of the universe, 2008-06-24 14:23:53

who cares, its the leafs. no matter they do they will suck doing it.
jimbo, 2008-06-24 14:16:20

Restart from scratch
A hockey fan, 2008-06-24 13:59:42

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