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Are the Sens better with Stillman and Commodore?
Mon, February 11, 2008

The Ottawa Senators have shaken things up.

Ottawa acquired forward Cory Stillman and defenceman Mike Commodore from the Carolina Hurricanes on Monday for forward Patrick Eaves and defenceman Joe Corvo.

The Senators lead the Eastern Conference and have made very few changes from the team that lost to Anaheim in last year's Stanley Cup.

Does this deal address problems in the Senators lineup? Are the Sens a better team following the four-player trade? Have your say in our forum.

Sens pull off a big deal


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Actually, you refugee from Grade 5 - it's "prima donna" and without the hyphen. And it's "you're" in that context - not "your."

At first I thought perhaps when you said "knew you where more intelligent than you let on ..." and spelled it "comparisson" that they were typos - but now I'm not so sure.

If you are going to highlight your responses with insults at least get out a dictionary.
George O'Leary, 2008-02-24 11:18:28

George, your a jack ass, he is close to having more points than the other nine combined. Wake up prema-donna.
Pete, 2008-02-23 20:58:59

The problem in Ottawa (well, the BIGGEST problem) right now is the defense. When did they become so horrible? Redden and Phillips are playing far below their capabilities, and Meszaros is beginning to look like the second coming of Stan Neckar (you longtime Sens fans know what I mean).

This team is an enigma in every department. They can look like the league's most dominant team today and a junior B team the next. When the big line goes to sleep the Sens are dead meat. When the entire blueline decides to phone it in the Sens are dead meat. When the goaltending is merely average (as it usually is as of late) the Sens are dead meat.

Yet, if they play anywhere's near their capabilities they will destroy anyone in their path.
Dave in NS, 2008-02-23 20:33:53

Yea, maybe now they're as good as the '76 Habs (LOL).

I believe that Brian Murray is taking a gamble, by trading away two good young players for a couple of veterans who, correct if I'm wrong, will be UFA's at the end of the season, as he and probably the Ottawa fans grow impatient for a Cup win.

I agree that teams that fall into the trap of signing 2 or 3 key players to huge contracts are destined to end up like Tampa, but I'm not sure how this can be remedied. Melnyk and others talk about the Cup discount (players willing to play for less than they could get elsewhere for a chance at the Cup) but that's a pile of crap.

I also think that when players sign long-term contracts for big dollars, there main objective becomes preservation and survival until the final year of their contract when they need to step it up for their next negotiation (this applies more to Europeans than it does to Canadian players). This means not going down to block that shot at a key moment, not going into the corner to dig for the puck, etc. all in an effort to stay healthy. This doesn't help a team win championships.

I don't see the Senators coming out of the East this year unless Murray does something about the goaltending, and the team attitude that no other team in the league can compete with them.
Roland, 2008-02-23 14:41:24

OK - you win. I give up. You're the resident expert. Like the NDP in politics, you're always right and if the country only sought your advice and counsel we could do away with all argument to the contrary. I bow down to the most knowledgeable person on the board.

Oh, by the way, did you see Brennan's column today? Here's an excerpt: "Entering the game (against Columbus), Neil led the league in minor penalties. Not a good stat for a tough guy who sits in the Top 10 in penalty minutes despite having half as many fights as the other nine." Tough - but dumb as a frikken post!

George O'Leary, 2008-02-22 16:50:50

George, See I knew you where more intelligent than you let on ther other day. I don't disagree with nary a word you have stated below. Well save for the Tampa comparisson. The Sens need a second line scorer, the supporting cast again save for Redden will be fine. Redden will be gone no later than the end of the season. Too bad for me as it looks like he will be heading to Edmonton. Your epiphany with regard to the goal tending is nothing new. Everyone has know from the begining of the season Sens goaltending is average at best. We all knew last year it probably wasn't good enough to win the cup. Same for Buffalo last year, obviously no chance this year. Back to the original point, stop avoiding it, to compare McGrattan to Neil is asinine. Neil was recently voted best hockey player amongst NHL tough guys by NHL tough Guys. check out the Hockey News article. Neil averages a point every 3.5 games, your boy McGrattan, one point every 14 games. With last nights injury to Neil we will now see how good or bad your prediction was as cleary McGrattan will now get to play. The "New NHL", how is any of that different from the old NHL. Your proving my point in each of your strings.
Pete, 2008-02-22 15:08:33

Tell you what Pete, since I've been accused of being a Leaf-basher elsewhere on more than one occasion, I'll throw in my "asinine" and "ignorant" observations on the Senators here, since this, after all, a thread oin that team.

This is not the team that started the season - they are, in reality, the team that has played since that fast start: mediocre after the one big line, with a shaky, error-prone D, and goaltending that is staggering somewhere along the "very average" line.

All the positive talk about "stepping up our game" - and "we have to find a way" and "we need to just do the little things right" will no more turn this season around for the Senators than will the same sort of wishful-thinking baloney we hear out of the ACC will help that other collection of mediocrity become winners.

For their glaring inability to score with any frequency on the PP I point the finger squarely at Paddock. He, and his assistants, clearly have no clue as to how to structure a PP, whether it's 5-on-4 or 5-on-3 (at which they have to be at or near the bottom rung).

Murray won't make changes in that regard or with his goaltendings - not at this stage of the season - and it's doubtful that he can make any other deadline trade that will have any great positive impact from here to the end. They'll probably do just well enough to make the playoffs (although missing them is not entirely out of the picture) and will probably finish somewhere around 5th or 6th. Then it will be a quick exit.

With the top heavy contracts to Heatley, Spezza, and Alfreddson they have become what every team is destined to be - the Tampa Bay Lightning. Four players making up the bulk of the cap fronting a cast of very average players filling out the rest of the roster. That's the "new NHL."

George O'Leary, 2008-02-22 11:49:56

The way things are going, I don't know. I don't think the Sens presently have what it takes to go the distance in the playoffs. Are they saving Gerber for it? Seems Emery is in net all the time. I wonder if management are playing him now to see if he can perform and if not, looking to trade him? Or maybe they are playing him now cause he won't get much Ice time in the playoffs? All i know is the team is back to full strength pretty much and even though the offence isn't doing that bad, Emery is NOT doing that great. No where near what he was capable last season. maybe it was the operation? I don't know, but if they don't start winning some games again (and i mean not one goal games), they are not going to see hockey in June, let alone May.
gerry madden, 2008-02-22 10:44:17

oh yes and with that in mind the senators are much better
Tim, 2008-02-22 10:37:25

check the sens record when mcgratton is dressed ....nobody messes with them..he is a part of the game even if on the bench...players on the other team have to respect the sens when he is on the bench...opens up the ice for the good guys
Tim, 2008-02-22 10:35:07

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