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Do coaches order retaliations?
Thu, December 6, 2007

The NHL coach thrust into the spotlight cast by Todd Bertuzzi's infamous on-ice assault against Steve Moore was staying quiet Thursday amid explosive allegations he called for "retaliation" against the Colorado Avalanche forward.

Do coaches order retaliations? Have your say in our forum.

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If it was up the the president of the "society against the instigator rule"

there would be no reason to ask the question because fighting and the action taken by Bertuzzi would be so common place that it would be completely ignored.

We go back to the "if he was a man mentality" he would have dropped his gloves. Does this mean that "TODD" was more of a man because he followed the coach's orders?
Supernewf, 2007-12-09 17:44:27

They may, but the player takes the actions in his own hands. We wouldn't be talking about this if Steve was suspended for his head shot (that the league likes to chat about today) on Naslund. Steves injury was terrible, but if he were to drop the gloves like a man and face Todd we wouldn't be writing about this. All we ever see on TV is the actual punch and landing on the ice. Steve knew full well that he was going to have to keep his head on a swivel that game and skated away from Todd with his tail between his legs. Todd should never have done what he did, but if Steve had some nuts he would be still playing hockey.
The society against the instigator rule, 2007-12-08 16:08:50

Of course the majority do! If you are coaching a sport where violence and intent to injure is necessary in order to keep your job and you subordinates are basically thugs programmed to carry the violence to the playing surface in order to keep their jobs, it does not take a rocket scientist to make the connection. I long for the day when hockey players will follow the lead of football players at the end of a physical contest and actually meet on the playing surface for some socializing and handshakes. I must be dreaming in technicolour.
peter l., 2007-12-08 11:47:30

How is the average person going to know if coaches order retaliation?

I suppose they might, but that's just speculation.

Anyway, the player is still his own person and can decide what he will do - not just be a dummy and do whatever he's told.
Gordon S., 2007-12-08 08:58:38

This question of Canadian hockey coaches sending players out to “take care of that guy” on the opposing team is as old as Moses coming down from the mountain. It is like asking silly questions such as: Is the sky blue? Is the Pope a Catholic? Do politicians lie? Do pro and Olympic athletes take performance enhancing drugs?

The answer to all of these is of course, a resounding YES!

It is presumed that the coach intends this type of activity to be done within the confines of the rules. The player is ultimately responsible for his own actions and must be held fully accountable for them in the end.


VINCE, 2007-12-08 00:19:06

If any Coach has to order retaliation from his players,he hasn't got much of a Team to start with.I never had ANY Coach have to tell me or any of his players how to react to a situation on the ice that needed a message to be delivered.If you were an Enforcer or Policeman,and any kind of a Teammate,you took care of the matter whenever the score dictated or the time remaining was right.But you did it wih a fist,not a gutless cheap shot to the back of the head with a stick.The last great Enforcer left when Tony Twist had to retire prematurely.I never saw Tie Domi fail to take care of business when necessary regardless of the size of the opponent.(Remember Bob Probert?)Those type of players are sadly lacking in "The New NHL"which is why you have these sorry incidents and every Team is too busy sending film to League Headquarters instead of creating the attitude that you take one of us on,you take us all on!
Michael Abriola, 2007-12-07 19:01:03

What is the unwritten rule about doing something to someone else? Do it but don't get caught. Just a small white lie!!!!
Richard, 2007-12-07 18:26:39

No they are sweet innocent products of the hockey system who have been able to seperate themselves from the violence in hockey and just concentrate on hockey itself. Its all the players who choose to act violent all by themselves. Coaches cringe when ever violence happens on the ice. How could you dare even suggest it.
wayne, 2007-12-07 08:18:30

is the sky blue. I believe it is a toss up for the worst between holmgren and crawford
Tim, 2007-12-07 07:19:37

Yes they do...witnessed it many years ago when the coach told the guy beside me on the bench to go at #2 on the opposing team. #2 was well over 6' tall, and not known to us was wearing a cast. My team mate suffered a broken nose and jaw. This was Provincial Jr. A in Aurora.
Lo, 2007-12-06 22:27:47

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