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Do coaches order retaliations?
Thu, December 6, 2007

The NHL coach thrust into the spotlight cast by Todd Bertuzzi's infamous on-ice assault against Steve Moore was staying quiet Thursday amid explosive allegations he called for "retaliation" against the Colorado Avalanche forward.

Do coaches order retaliations? Have your say in our forum.

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Of course coaches order retaliations, and if you don't think so, time to get your head out of the sand, but then again you still may believe in Santa and the Tooth Fairy or Easter Bunny.
Karen, 2008-01-08 21:00:49

Lloyd

Moore's hit on Naslund wasnt clean. Moore got him with an elbow to the head.

Naslund tried to avoid the hit at the last second and duck under it and Moore went down and caught him with an elbow.

If Moore would have got a penalty on the play then there probably wouldnt have been the attack aferwards.

I am 99.9 % sure Moore never fought anyone in that game. Matt Cooke challenged him but Moore declined.
Jimmy, 2007-12-28 03:46:55

I knew it wouldn't be long before the NHL pro violence league would blame Steve Moore for his injuries. Moore had already had to fight a Canuck earlier in the game and had his back turned when attacked by Bertuzzi. Blaming Moore for the legal hit on Naslund is a joke, next time Naslund will keep his head up. When Gretzky was hit and saw stars in a game against Toronto, he didn't say the hit was illegal, he just stated that he will have to keep his head up in the future.

When a team is losing, a coach who's job depends on winning, will do anything to shake his team up, so I have no doubt he instructed the team to get Moore. Since the NHL had a meeting with the Canucks prior to the game and warned them that the league wouldn't take lightly any vigilante justice, when it happened they responsible for encouraging it to happen in the future for only suspending Bertuzzi 17 games. The league didn't expect that they would have to penalize a "star" when it happened. If it had been an enforcer, he probably would have gotten a year suspension.

Look at the two Flyers this year 20 and 25 games, Simon's 30 games and the year suspension to McSorley.

The only way to stop this carnage on ice is to suspend the player until the person he injuries returns to playing for his team, then at least double the amount of time the injured person sat out as his penalty as a minimum sentence.

This will never happen as the NHL promotes the violence of hockey as does the media.
Lloyd B., 2007-12-27 13:43:45

Do GM's sign enforcers? Loaded with IQ on that question.
Janney, 2007-12-22 16:44:12

Look at Bertuzzi now; his career is going nowhere.

He is a pretty average player without Naslund.

Before "the incident", whenever I saw a close-up of Bertuzzi, my impression of him was that he always looked really serious and could snap at anytime.
Gordon S., 2007-12-22 15:07:19

I unfortunately don't see anyone posting about how wrong Scott Stevens and countless other so-called "great" players were and are for throwing shots to the head, so why is Steve Moore being singled out for being wrong? I suspect it's because he wasn't as high profile/didn't make as much money. Somehow, I doubt you will be impressed if someone who makes more money that you crushes your Civic with his Hummer and gets away with it, and justifies it by calling you a nobody. When I go to the Hall of Fame, I refuse to look at the plaques of Messier, Stevens, Howe, and countless others. Players who have to break the rules to be great aren't, no matter how much they were paid.
chris, 2007-12-18 16:40:58

There might be a few coaches that tell a player to go " get " so and so but I think the majority of coaches dont.

Enforcers know what there role is and knows that if his teammates are being " roughed up " or intimidated then he will go settle it.

Back when the Moore / Bertuzzi incident happened I dont think the Canucks had an enforcer so Bertuzzi took matters into his own hands.

I am sure Tie Domi never had to be told what to do if Messier or Sundin were being run at or being cheap shotted.
Jimmy, 2007-12-13 10:57:49

Headhunting didn't start with Semenko and McSorley watching out for Wayne. He could have taken care of himself, what you can't catch you can't hit.Headhunting started when players decided that respect for each other was archaic.Ferguson respected Keon, Kurtenbach respected Henri Richard and Gordie had the utmost respect from the Rocket and vis/versa, but then coaches like Crawford and Fred Shero before him decided that retaliation was the norm, it's not the dropping your gloves and going toe to toe until your too tired to swing it's when someone walks away from your challenge and he becomes a coward in your eyes so you do the Mcsorley thing and take his head off with your stick or you do the Bertuzzi thing and beat his head into the ice.

Lets get back to playing hockey.
Supernewf, 2007-12-11 00:18:32

The hit to Naslund's head could have ended his career (see Brett and Eric). Luckily it didn't. If 600lbs worth of hockey players piled on top of me on an ice surface, I probably would have a broken neck or spinal injury. Like I said what Todd did was wrong and he deserved the time off, but Steve was wrong too. The lack of respect in the game without fear of retribution has increased since the instigator rule came in. It's a fact. Don't you think that Wayne would have had his head taken off over the years if Semenko, McSorley and guys like that wern't around? Come on, if you don't like to see fighting in hockey, go watch no body contact rec hockey. Oh wait... they fight in that too.
The society against people who cry about fighting in hockey, 2007-12-10 18:58:40

Hey society.

Maybe Steve was ordered by his coach to not get in fights that game. Maybe the coach wanted to win the game and not get stupid penalties putting them down a man. He didn't know the other coach gave orders to get him and didn't know that some moron would actually clock him from behind with his golves still on.
wayne, 2007-12-10 09:31:40

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