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Have the Sens spent themselves into a hole?
Sat, November 3, 2007

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Jake, its pretty easy to critisize the Sens with the Leafs and their government handouts just down the road.

The Corel Center is in the middle of nowhere while the ACC is in the middle of downtown (again, thank the gvmt handouts). So who cares if people leave early and want to beat the traffic? I personally stay for every close game, but yes for sure I have left early.

I guess its hard for you to understand - see, here in Ottawa, we can get tickets (they aren't all snapped up by corporations), so I've probably seen about 150 games since inception, and leaving early is no big deal. I can see why you, probably paying to see the Leafs maybe once or twice in your life would want to stay until the end.

And as far as Ottawa fans being dumber than Toronto ones, that is absolute BS. We have some that know what they are talking about, and others that don't. JUST LIKE TORONTO. I have met so many Leaf fans that don't know anything except blind loyalty I really have a hard time not laughing at all of your comments.

Case in point: I was at a Halloween party, and we were talking hockey. One of my friends girlfreinds chimed in that the Leafs are her favorite team. Knowing she was about as sharp as the average Torontonian, I asked who her favorite player was. Her reply: "Joseph Curtis". Boy, I sure envy the in depth hockey knowledge of all you Leaf fans!
Ben, 2007-11-06 15:32:10


You need to consider some anger management therapy.

You should go back and read your previous post. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you were comparing Ottawa and Toronto implying that Ottawa has greater support for its teams.

Jake, 2007-11-06 14:53:53

You can climb back down from your soapbox Jake. No one in this discussion board has, to my knowledge, ever claimed that Ottawa is a "sports mecca." So what's your point? That Toronto supports a wider array of teams? With 4 times the population, I should certainly hope so. So why compare the two? Perhaps what you say about attendance dropping off in Ottawa should the team ever sink to the depths of the Leafs is true. But that just tells me that the average Ottawa fan is infinitely smarter than the yabos in TO who continually flock to the arena to watch mediocrity in action.
George O'Leary, 2007-11-06 14:34:04

This is getting off topic but let's examine this great sports mecca known as Ottawa:

The Lynx are done. I've attended a few Lynx games over the years and could never understand why they didn't have greater fan support.

City can't support a CFL team.

City can't support a NLL team (lacrosse in case you're wondering).

Senators were on the verge of bankruptcy and will have troubles again in the future - they will inevitably be a lesser team at some point and then we can all watch the fan support disappear. Ottawa's fans are fair weather fans who aren't that knowledgable about the game - they go to games so they can tell everyone around the water cooler the next day that they were at the game. I was at a couple of games last year and had to laugh at everyone running for the exits with 5 minutes left, in two very close game, to beat the traffic. It's not just me, the person who owns the tickets said that happens all the time.

It's a joke to compare Ottawa to Toronto as far as sports go. The Leafs are the richest franchise in hockey in case you didn't know. They have NLL which has huge support, MLB does well, CFL, NBA, etc. No comparison.

Jake, 2007-11-06 13:27:33

Tell me one other city in Canada, Mike, where, on one night, you can have upwards of 19,000 watching the Sens, close to 10,000 downtown at the Civic Centre taking in a 67's game, while across the river at the Guertin close to 5,000 are jammed in to watch the Olympiques. Certainly not in TO where the junior teams can't draw flies, never mind the Marlies who are having a great season so far in front of mainly empty seats.

Yes, football collapsed here, primarily because of idiotic ownership the first time around, and the second crack because the league, in all its infinite wisdom, charged them a highjacker's ransom for an "expansion" fee, and then allowed them to draft essentially crapola.

Baseball, in case you haven't noticed, has disappeared from all of Canada, at least at the AAA level, and right now I think the Blue Jays are skating on thin ice. Toronto may be the big fish in the Canadian pond, but they're a minnow compared to the big boys in the U.S. NFL football? In your dreams.
George O'Leary, 2007-11-05 15:32:18

Sens top draw in Ottawa ? They are the only sports franchise in Ottawa, all others have collapsed over and over again, even the Sens almost went under and probably will down the line too.This aint no Sports town!!
Mike in Ottawa, 2007-11-05 14:20:44

Overspent themselves?????

No way they are the top draw in Ottawa, they were in the Cup finals last year and are on pace to be there again, players want to play in Ottawa i.e. Forsberg and they are a fun team to watch, a team like Edmonton has very litte Cap space is pretty much dead last in the NHL and people don't want to play there i.e Mrs. Pronger, so I think Ottawa is doingf a fine job of team and buget management...take some lessons Kevin Lowe!!!
Jim FR., 2007-11-05 11:28:13

why question the best GM in the league...

he took over a team that was not going to change under muckler ...brought in grit in Donovan and Robiltaille. and then signed what he needed for the future... watch for Emery and redden to go for talented youth now....
Tim, 2007-11-05 10:35:22

the value of the spezza contract cannot be looked at in isolation. You must also evaluate what this transaction brings to the franchise and what it brings to overall team production (For example, he makes heatley and alfie more productive) and team chemistry. I'm sure the $7M/season buys more than just his physical skills.

And remember, this stuff is taxed too.
Chris, 2007-11-05 09:04:15

Welcome to the new NHL!!!!

Who would you rather keep?

Spezza, Heatley or guys like kelly. I understand how great of a role player Kelly is but guys like Spezza and Heatley and Fisher don't always come around. I'm happy that we've managed to keep these players, these guys would have gotten much more on the market from someone else. It's not like we're over paying a guy like Penner, these are bonafide stars in there prime. Good work Murray!!!!!
Bruce, 2007-11-05 07:27:44

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