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What effect will the NFL have in Toronto?
Tue, April 15, 2008

The Buffalo Bills are coming to Toronto.

The NFL has reached an agreement with the Bills that will allow them to play eight games -- five regular-season contests and three exhibitions -- in Toronto over the next five years.

Will games north of the border have any effect on the CFL? Would you go to an NFL game in Canada? Have your say in our forum.

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So tell me, why does supporting the CFL automatically make a city "Canadian"? It is an American sport with a few minor rule changes to make it different. Have any of you stopped to see what nationality makes up the majority of CFL players? You got it, Americans. The only difference is, the level of play is currently well below that of the NFL. Don't get me wrong, I love the Argos, and this can only be a good thing for them. The Bills aren't moving here, they're only playing 8 games over the next 5 years, so it won't hinder the Argos at all (it will actually help the Argos promote football in this city).
Don't bash Toronto!, 2008-02-07 14:42:50

I honestly believe that the CFL is now screwed..who can compete with the NFL and the money and the endorsements..I give it about 3 years from now and it will fold.. The bigger cities in Canada such as VAncouver, Montreal, Toronto and Calgary (maybe Edmonton) may apply for a franchise..and now with our dollar so high ..the players may want to be paid in Canadian dollars
Ed, 2008-02-07 14:28:12

If the NFL comes to Toronto, the 70,000 fans that pay for seat licenses and exorbitant tickets will watch while the rest of the nation seldom if ever sees a live NFL game. The only real, legitimate alternative is the CFL and there are lots of Canadians who love the 3 down game. These fans need to step forward over the next five years and make it clear to everyone that Canadians want the CFL. If they do that, the CFL should be okay.
Gary Graminski, 2008-02-07 13:54:05

If any Toronto team should be worried if the Bills arrive, it's should be Blue Jays not the Argos.

The Argos are a mom & pop operation, which mainly relies on tickets sales to individuals and families. While the Jays, like an NFL team in Toronto, cater to the business exec's and their customers. A large portion of the Jay's tickets are used for promotional purposes by large corporations. The Jays, who had been losing up to $50 million every year, relies on these corporate purchases for their very existence...the very same market the NFL will be going after. And frankly the Jays pale in comparison to the NFL, which gets going in earnest in July, right in the heart of the baseball season, and will dominate the sports pages and talk shows through their baseball season.

Can the Jays afford to lose 10%, 20% or 30% or their corporate clients and still be a viable operation? Will Rogers continue to be happy losing that much coin every season? And with the NFL coming, facing even bigger losses?? And what about the Jays' corporate sponsorships and TV revenue, which will largley be scooped by an NFL team's lustre?.

In comparison the 150-yr-old Argos have a solid base of fans who buy tickets every year, but their national corporate and TV revenue is only a miniscule portion of their income, and they could probably weather an NFL storm in Toronto much better than other Toronto teams.
Stu D., 2008-02-07 13:47:52

everything once again shouldnt revolve around toronto.. move the argo's to ottawa and all will be ok.......
parney, 2008-02-07 13:25:46

NFL IN CANADA. SAY IT AIN'T SO! If Toronto wants to be thought of a suburb of Buffalo, that's okay. But I was watching the history of Grey Cups with Kenny Ploen, Bernie Falonie, Prince Hal, Nobby, Terry Greer et al, and wonder why we'd throw away a rich tradition and the oldest football franchise in North America, just for the hype of the NFL. Learn to appreciate the Argos and the CFL... stay Canadian. Besides that the CFL is a better game!
Big JIm in Wooler, 2008-02-07 12:16:09

RIGHT ON ROY 100% RIGHT..I ECHO YOUR COMMENTS...
willy, 2008-02-07 11:13:26

Roy, if we get an NFL team, or if the Bills play here a few times, why do you care? (If you didn't, you would spend so much time posting about it!)Shouldn't you worry about what goes on in whatever city you are in?

And you want to call us arrogant? You sir, signify the epitamy of arrogance. How dare you think you are the high and mighty authority on what it takes to be a "Real Canadian"? You are just as much an American as the rest of us. Don't tell me you don't watch the perdominantly AMERICAN programming carried by Canadian TV networks, or shop at the Walmart, McDonalds and Home Depot in your neighborhood, or own an American car. And don't give me this BS about Toronto being the only Canadian city that has U.S. big city problems. I have been to other parts of the country, and I'd have an easier time finding drugs and petty crime on the downtown streets of Ottawa, Montreal and Vancouver than in Toronto.

So don't be the pot calling the kettle black. What we do in Toronto is our business, so if you don't like it, then TOUGH LUCK! Just shut your trap and focus on your own place instead --- that's what we do here.

Which brings up a point ---the one about the identity crisis. We don't have a crisis. That myth was invented by other people who hate this city for no reason. Most of us consider ourselves Canadian, and damn proud of it. So what if the cultural and social fabric of this city is different from the rest of the country? And what is a "REAL CANADIAN?" I really have to wonder if certain people just trash talk Toronto ONLY because we are made up mostly of racial minorities (to all minorities reading this --- when was the last time you had "Real Canadian" thrown in your face and in what context was it used? I rest my case)
Don't bash Toronto!, 2008-02-05 12:47:54

No to having the NFL in Toronto due to the ripoff ticket prices... In Buffalo tickets are cheaper than Toronto. Why are the owners so greedy? Think TWICE!!!
Ralph, 2008-02-04 11:31:36

The NFL and the Bills are merely dangling a carrot in front of suckers in Toronto in order to increase support for the Bills. They will never relocate to TO. They will just keep leading stupid people to believe its going to happen. People in TO are stupid to want the Bills to move there. Right now they can drive 90 minutes park and tailgate for next to nothing, and get a ticket to the game for as little as $40. If they moved to TO, say goodbye to tailgating and be prepared to spend $200+ for a ticket and $10+ a beer.
swervin, 2008-02-04 10:55:40

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