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What should the Leafs do?
Tue, January 8, 2008

The Maple Leafs felt like throwing a hockey stick through the television following last night's 3-2 overtime loss to the Carolina Hurricanes, preferably at the big HD screen at National Hockey League headquarters in Toronto.

But angry Nik Antropov took the team's anger at a costly overtime penalty and three video replay reversals the hardest, hurling his stick towards referees Mike Leggo and Don Koharski after Rod Brind'Amour netted the game-winner.

Forget about throwing hockey sticks. What about throwing in the towel on the season? What should the Leafs do before the trade deadline? Have your say in our forum.

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No Ben, you are becoming the Canadian version of the New York Rangers. Only they are marginally better.
Pete, 2007-10-24 09:54:02

Simple question deserves a simple answer. Lousy management securing lousy players for too much money!
Pete, 2007-10-24 09:52:06

How can professional hockey players who have probably played the game since they learned to skate all of a sudden not know how to play any kind of defence? They look like they do not have a clue who to cover. I like Maurice but if he can't teach better than he is then we need to change him since as the story goes we can't change all the players. I think there is something else going on that we don't know about as it seems they are playing to get their coach fired. Clean house bring in Bowman as GM and president and let him hire his own coach if he wants and give him carte blanche to clean things up and restore some pride. Better yet sell the team to Bassille so we can have a passionate owner like the Sens have in Melnyk.

Brian L, 2007-10-24 09:21:57

This team is a throw back to the Harold Ballard days, when the talent level was just not up to snuff with most of the league. The big difference, though, is that Ballard was cheap on salary. With the cap in place, it means the GM has to be a wise spender. Can JFJ be classified as a wise spender?

I disagree with Greg on one point --- the Leafs do not have two starting goalies. Heck, they do not even have one. Raycroft is a capable backup at best, and Toskola has been a backup most of his career. They can play well enough, but Brian Hayward/Patrick Roy they are not!

Evil Jaze, I agree we should support our team. But realistically, most Leaf fans know this team is not going to make the playoffs. We just think it is a joke that Canada's largest market cannot produce a winning team, despite all the big money signings. We are becoming the New York Knicks of hockey.
Ben, 2007-10-24 09:21:42

No Brainer; Leafs DO NOT have a competitive hockey culture (CHC) within the team. CHC is the combination of tangibles and intangibles a successful on-ice organization works to achieve with a well thought out progression plan. The Leafs ownership group, no question, loves hockey and their involvement in it. Just think how much more they and of course the players and fans -The Leafs Nation-would enjoy the game if they actually set out on a plan to ice a team with a truly, authentic, competitive hockey culture. Not just an entertainment product.

To be clear, this team with a decades long list of ridicule and disrespect deservedly heaped on the teams' on-ice stats remains the envy of professional sports from a business model point of view. Those who have studied, scouted, coached and motivated good hockey players to be champions understand and accept the M.O. of the Leafs for what it is.

Understanding it does not make it easier to watch...especially knowing how it can be fixed.

The current on-ice gaffs are not the fault of the fans' negativity, the media, the boo birds, nor is it the complete fault of the players. Unfortunately, the previous 40 years of mediocrity has caught up (think bad disease) and now sunk below the radar.

If you are not focused on winning, you won't.

If you are focused on turning profits, you will. If you do not put people in place who can do both, you won't.

(What the mind can conceive, the body will achieve.)

This current business model sells tickets, advertising and drives revenue...not winners.

The infra-structure is in place to be wildly successful. Hopefully, the faithful corporate supporters and Leaf's fans around the globe will enjoy the complete package one day, soon.

It's all there, just needs the right people.

Heck I'd do it for the thrill of victory, cetainly don't need the money.
Hockey Biz 101, 2007-10-24 09:20:52

To many overpaid players with no movement clauses who should be playing for the Marlies. Those being McCabe, Kubina, Gill, Raycroft and lately Tucker.
Don, 2007-10-24 09:20:13

Paying too much for too little. It will be atleast 2 more years before they can get rid of enough salary to build a decent team.

That does hinge on not making any more silly acquisitions in the mean time. Ottawa is paying a couple million less for a cup contender while Toronto is fighting tooth and nail not to miss the playoffs the 3rd straight year.
Trev, 2007-10-24 08:33:35

Management has built this mess, and the coaching staff is unable to form a team with it. The management issue goes beyond the puppet JFJ, it is actually the meddling of MLSEL (Tannenbaum and Peddie). These execs are brilliant men in their fields, but they are not hockey men, so why should they be pulling the strings on JFJ?

I like Maurice, but he is not getting the job done with the cards he was dealt. JFJ now has little option but to can the coach, or bite the bullet (and admit he made mistakes) by sending the likes of McCabe and Kubina down to the farm to clear up cap-space. I think both of these guys are decent d-men, but they are crippling the team with their contracts and not delivering 5 and 6 million dollar performances. There is nothing but garbage left on the market, but one man's garbage...

It is also nice to have the luxury of two quality starting goalies, but the Leafs cannot afford that luxury.


Greg C., 2007-10-24 07:53:57

I'll tell you what's wrong with the Leafs: Its fans!

There are lots of fans of other teams out there that don't like the Leafs because they're the Leafs but I have to say the most venomous hatred comes from its very own fans. Just read a few pages from this discussion to see what I mean. If Toronto is your team, you should support them! How do you think they feel about all the negativity? What do you think the fans hope to accomplish when they boo their own team night after night? Come on!

Go Sens!
evilJaze, 2007-10-24 07:43:39

Your right on the money George. This team simply has very low quality players for the most part. Fans should send a message and embarrass the Leafs brass by not showing up to the games.....leave the seats empty. Corporate seats and all......leave them empty !!!
J Stewart Oshawa, 2007-10-24 07:39:12

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