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What should the Leafs do?
Tue, January 8, 2008

The Maple Leafs felt like throwing a hockey stick through the television following last night's 3-2 overtime loss to the Carolina Hurricanes, preferably at the big HD screen at National Hockey League headquarters in Toronto.

But angry Nik Antropov took the team's anger at a costly overtime penalty and three video replay reversals the hardest, hurling his stick towards referees Mike Leggo and Don Koharski after Rod Brind'Amour netted the game-winner.

Forget about throwing hockey sticks. What about throwing in the towel on the season? What should the Leafs do before the trade deadline? Have your say in our forum.

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Will heads roll in Toronto?

I,for one,think there are already too many headless bodies,floating around around,in the "great"organisation,that is TMLSE (Too Many Losses Spell Excuses).The leafs' ultimate goal seems to be, to "show up",only when they play the other two eastern canadian teams.Look at all the games they played against the habs,or the sens this season..All but one game were close,and could've gone either way.Once they manage to beat the sens this year(and anyone that thinks that's not gonna happen sometimes,is a fool),you'll hear some people say:"Hey!we just beat the best record team in the league,we're not THAT bad."...NOT!!!!The problem remains,that the leafs's team was build to compete in the "old NHL",when almost all the "grabbing,hooking,pushing and shoving" were considered "part of the game" an era where the game's based on speed and skills,the leafs fall(no pun intended) way short of expectation.
Mitch, 2007-11-16 12:03:07

With each loss the same questions are posed again and again: why don't they fire JFJ - or why don't they trade McCabe?

IF the team was owned by an individual who wanted to win above all else (ego, prestige, simply likes a winner - take your pick) then, yes, I think JFJ would have been cut loose long ago. But they are owned by a consortium of teachers who, already seeing a healthy profit year in year out, are simply not interested in paying both a fired GM and a new one. So be prepared to see him around until his contract expires.

As for trades, no one else is going to take on those bloated contracts, such as McCabe's, and at the same time relinquish their own future. They MIGHT be able to deal Sundin and Kaberle except for the fact that a no movement clause would have to be waived first, and even then don't expect a dizzying array of talent in return. There are also precious few teams with a chance to go all the way who have the cap space to take on either Sundin or Kaberle's contracts, and I doubt the bottom-feeders who do have the cap space are willing to fork over good and inexpensive roster players and/or high draft picks for either, as neither would make much of a difference to their playoff hopes.

What you see is what you get until the various contracts expire.
George O'Leary, 2007-11-16 11:31:40

I'm glad the team is tanking right now. Maybe for once, there won't be this false sense of optimism that seems to carry this team year after year.

The players are just not up to the standard they need to be to compete with the likes of Ottawa and Detroit. Decisions that seemed like a good idea at the time such as Raycroft, McCabe, Kubina, Blake, etc are not turning out that way. They were risk calls and had they gone the other way, Furgueson would look like a genius right now.

Sundin can't will this team into the playoffs anymore on his own and he shouldn't have to. He has to admit that this team is just not good enough and move on. Toronto has to do what Jersey did and make some tough decisions and free up cap space.

Here's hoping they do poorly consistently so that the team can clean house and start from scratch. The fans have waited this long, what's another 5 years to rebuild from the ground up.

Alan, 2007-11-16 11:31:37

For the 1st time in 18 years, I am starting to NOT watch the leaf games ona regular basis. Some of you out there who spend big bucks on advertising aren't going to get anything from me.

I'm sick sick sick about my team, might be time to move on and pick a team that can play and WANTS to win.

Dean, 2007-11-16 10:23:11

It will take a record of 13 wins and 18 losses before the top mgt realizes the season is over. Then, and only then, will JFJ be put out of his misery. This season was over before it started if you look at the high priced non-producing help on this team who were kept around after such a dismal performance last year. What sank this team since Quinn was fired is that JFJ canot tell a good hockey player from a bad one. What business do players like Battaglia, Newbury, Wozniewski, Belak and Pohl have playing in the NHL? They aren't even quality AHLers. What other teams would take any of the Leafs' multi-millionaires and give draft choices in return? The decisions made by JFJ have really been a total catastrophe. What is his hold on this team anyway? Why wasn't he fired long ago?
Ron, 2007-11-16 10:09:01

Will heads roll in Toronto? Being a die-hard Leafs hater I hope not! I'm LOVING what's happening right now. Crash & burn Toronto Make Believes!!! lol
dave, 2007-11-16 09:58:42

The current stats sheet is a bit alarming regarding goals given up. Yet I am optimistic.. Blake and Antro, Sundin, and all the new comers are giving great effort.. the results will come - I like Maurice's style and he is a smart coach.. Its only Nov 16 --- KEEP THE FAITH -- if I could only get my best friend RecordWayne to stop betting the Leafs on Pro-Line, we would probably have won more games so far.. Are you listening Wayne !!!!
HappyTraills living in Charlotte NC, 2007-11-16 09:53:27

no...the world will contiue to spin as it always does.

no one cares anymore,just a lot less!!!

this franchise does not deserve our or any support!!!

let them continue to eat thier cake until the empire finally crumbles.
nels skaalid, 2007-11-16 09:41:55

You guys are right Leaf fans are the most loyal,staying on the bandwagon thru thick and thin, and thats why we are Hockey,not like the fair weather fans of alot of teams who just jump on and off the bandwagon according to their teams standing. We will always bleed LEAF BLUE.

LOYALTY 90% of the population has no idea what that is
Fan for 43 years, 2007-11-16 09:38:21

Gustav and Jimmy,

You know, the fans drove Larry Murphy out of town years ago --- he was in the same boat, giving the puck away, but mostly due to his inept Leaf teammates. What happened? He goes to Detroit, wins a cup, gets into the Hall of Fame. And Leaf fans were forced to eat crow --- history is repeating itself!

Sure MCCabe he is one dimensional. He is an offensive defender, a PP specialist. My point is that every championship team NEEDS one of those (Murphy, Bourque, Coffey Neidermayer, Zubov --- all of whom were criticized for being soft in their own end). If you don't believe me, ask the Ottawa Senators - they missed that type of player in the finals last year. Even last night, he can only really be faulted for 1 of the three goals he was on the ice for (the third one).

He is not perfect, but he is far from being alone at fault. This team is loaded with minor league talent that cannot compete at the NHL level. Even Bobby Orr would struggle to perform playing with a mediocre team, and to fans who blamed him for every loss.
You have to be kidding, Gustav, 2007-11-16 09:33:07

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