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What should the Leafs do?
Tue, January 8, 2008

The Maple Leafs felt like throwing a hockey stick through the television following last night's 3-2 overtime loss to the Carolina Hurricanes, preferably at the big HD screen at National Hockey League headquarters in Toronto.

But angry Nik Antropov took the team's anger at a costly overtime penalty and three video replay reversals the hardest, hurling his stick towards referees Mike Leggo and Don Koharski after Rod Brind'Amour netted the game-winner.

Forget about throwing hockey sticks. What about throwing in the towel on the season? What should the Leafs do before the trade deadline? Have your say in our forum.

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I'm sure that when John Ferguson Jr. applied for the position as Leafs GM, his declared policy was that of building a championship team for the future, while making the playoffs and contending every year. That's the only platform that explains the direction the leaf team has taken since his arrival. I think he was overly ambitious anyway you look at it. His management style developed a great American Hockey League team, but didn't allow him the talent level to build a good NHL team. Only a team that acquires high draft picks over a relatively short period of time (3 to 5 years)can develop the talent base and associated team growth chemistry that is required to build a championship team or dynasty. The only exception in the league today is the Red Wings, but they have been skilled and lucky in acquiring draft picks for many years in succession. Yes the Leafs need to explode their roster. They need to take 2 step back to take 5 steps forward. Ferguson should not have traded for Raycroft, Kubina or Blake. It produced an artificially high team chemistry. A chemistry that looks good on paper, but

hasn't got the talent level to compete consistently. The Leafs have tried turning Stagan and Steen into scorers. They will likely be 3rd line players on a good team. Leaf fans need to go into hibernation for 3 or 4 years while their team loses

and collects high draft picks. Unfortunately if Ferguson had started this process a few years ago; the team's young talent base would now be much higher, and it wouldn't have been necessary to move Sundin.
Doug Vasey, 2008-01-10 15:14:07

It's typical of the hockey brain surgeons in Leaf land, fans, press and management included, that you come up with "trade Sundin" as the only solution. Sundin is the one bright spot over a bunch of dead wood. Why would you consider trading the only reason to watch a Leaf hockey game, away? So what, you get two not bad players and a draft pick in return. You still have all the dead wood and no salary cap room. The solution is to move, trade, demote, buy out and instill job security fear in the rest of the lineup. Sundin is the only player who should be considered untouchable. Of course Sundin would be easy to trade, any Joe Schmo could make a reasonable deal but the real wheeling and dealing that needs to be done would require hard work, a competent scouting staff, hockey knowledge and savvy management skills and that's why the Leafs will probably trade's not a solution, just an easy thing to do so Fergie and Peddie can say they are doing something and get the fans and press off their backs. Then the rest of the organization can go back to doing whatever it is they do but it sure isn't anything to do with hockey.
Jim, 2008-01-10 14:28:23

For a leaf fan having left TO 15 years ago(now in Ft Lauderdale)and not missed more than a hand full of games...I say, blow them up! It's nice of Sundin to not want to leave the team or the city but lets face it. If he really cared about the team he would let the team trade him, get some real hockey players in his place that he can then play with next season by re-signing. Bottom line... this current edition of the Leafs suck!! Its time for a drastic change and they should give Scotty Bowman whatever he needs to build a championship team in The big smoke.
dchung, 2008-01-10 12:36:16

The leafs suck, the leaf mgmt suck professional hockey in Ontario sucks its like a soap opera, the Senators have a practice and UFC breaks out, the Senators stink also no Ontario team will ever win the Stanley cup with all the drama that goes on in Ontario, the cup will always stay out west and thats what all the eastern fans should realize stick to your cricket and horse racing in Ontario, leave the hockey to the men out west where men are men and boys play hockey without the whining and drama!!!!
jim fra., 2008-01-10 12:06:21

Blow them up, I think they have already done that to themselves. Its only a matter of time until JFJ goes, Sundin will do the right thing and waive his contract, eventually all the rest of the lard arses will be gone and we will back to a new bunch of lazy, non-peformers in Leaf nation.

Why is it that anyone who has any talent can't do anything when they join the Leafs. I really think that Gretzy would have been a nonething had he played for the Leafs.
Phil, 2008-01-10 11:57:26

Lets do it...Blow the whole team up and start from scratch. Lets get as much draft picks as we can and get rid of these stiffs. I hated it when they traded Wendel for Mats but it to be done...Same thing here. We gotta convince Mats to accept a trade so we can get some quality players or picks. GO LEAFS GO!
Downtown Dude, 2008-01-10 11:01:33

No that is not a typo...I did not mean Blake or Belak.

First and foremost...exactly who would be blowing up this team and making all the "deals"? There is no one in the head office qualified to do it. Plus the scouting staff is woefully inadequate and has been for too many years to count. Since Vincent Damphousse in 1987 look who have been picked...Luke Richardson, Scott Pearson, Scott Thornton, Rob Pearson, Steve Bancroft, Drake Berehowsky, Brandon Convery, Grant Marshall, Kenny Jonsson, Landon Wilson, Eric Fichaud, Jeff Ware, Nik Antropov, Luca Cereda, Brad Boyes, Carlo Colaiacovo, Alex Steen, Tuukka Rask and Jiri Tlusty. Not a "superstar" among them and how many have been kept by the Leafs? Even the average hockey fan could do a better job managing this team than what has happened in the last 4 decades. I humbly offer my services for half the wages JFJr is now stealing.
Bleak Future, 2008-01-10 09:38:16

Another leafs lost, another happy day in my house. Go Habs Go.
chuck, 2008-01-10 09:12:14

It isnt about winning or losing its about making money. If they really cared about there fans they would trade Sundin for a few draft picks and a top flight prospect and start building for a few years down the road.

Knowning how much of a joke the Leafs organization is they wont trade Sundin and he will walk away after this year and head back to Sweden for good.

Jimmy, 2008-01-09 23:51:48

If the Leafs fans want a winner, they will have to endure some losing seasons as the teams starts from scratch and rebuilds with a core group of young stars.

Question is, will Leafs Nation have the patience? I highly doubt it, seeing as they go crazy when the Leafs lose one game.
Russ, 2008-01-09 23:21:07

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