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Has Chile tainted the U-20 tourney?
Fri, July 20, 2007

With Chilean tempers already boiling at some questionable officiating in their just-completed 3-0 semi-final loss to rival Argentina, chaos reigned supreme in the area of the Chile team bus, which was parked just outside the stadium.

According to witnesses, police used a stun gun on a member of the Chilean delegation as players were trickling onto the team bus, leading to a rukus featuring broken glass and pepper spray.

The incident is a wart on what to this point had been a successful event.

The big question for FIFA is how the situation last night got out of hand in the first place.

Send us your thoughts on the rukus on and off the pitch.

Chile is seeing red


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Response to Miguel, 2007-07-20 15:46:28

Your version of the events has some interesting omissions: "

This is the chronology of the facts:

"22.20 Some players do not raise the bus, and choose to walk ten steps to the fence of 20 meters that separates the exclusive zone of the soccer players with the area where the fans are, as they did many times in previous matches.

22.25 The rubbing begins. While the police tries to retire the Chilean players (because they have orders to avoid contact between the fans and soccer players), the players explain that they are only trying to talk to the Chilean public. Things get out of control, and the police use the force against Isaias Peralta, Cristián Sepúlveda and Jaime Grondona."

I'm sorry you lose something in your statement when you say, "Things get out of control...." what happened? You seem to know a lot, why not tell us exactly what happened? Obviously after being told to get on the bus, they didn't and responded with some kind of physicality. Here's a newsflash, soccer players are not above the law, I can never as a private citizen ever touch a police officer in a threatening manner, in Canada or Chile. Stop making excuses and portraying the officers as racist knuckle heads. How many Mexican, Argentinian, Brazilians, Uruguayans etc. were beaten in this tournament? Exactly.... the government of Chile should be embarrassed by the way their team handled itself. But please keep perpetuating the fact that your team was wronged by the exact tactics that they used throughout this tournament and ignore the truth.
Benny Burrito, 2007-07-20 18:00:06

To sum it all up,

Chile lost and are sore losers. 10 to 1 everyone agrees and ppl who have watched Chile Teams over the past 50 years or so know what kind of team they are. Very unruly and no regard to authority just like in their home country. No sportsman like conduct.

Don't blame the host country for losing the game. If you are frustrated then deal with it the proper way, be a man. Pls dont bring your third world country attitude in our country and expect to be treated nicely.

YOU ARE NOT IN YOUR COUNTRY. YOU ARE A VISITOR. If ppl break the law here and dont follow a peace officer then you deserve to get beat and kicked and have a taste of Canadian hospitality.

Lastly, I just heard that in Brazil where the PanAm Games are being held, the HOST Country like to "Heckle/Boo" other countries players. It is soo humiliating and no respect at all to other competitives. That is a third world country attitude. Unless the crowds start acting professionally and start respecting other players then for now they should just stay in their country unless they want another taste of a western hospitality. Grow UP!
John, 2007-07-20 17:56:40

This whole sorry episode is just another reason why there should be video replays in the game. This would have revealed the original kick from the Argentinian player which was somehow missed by three officials all looking at the incident (if they were following the game). This would have led to both players being dismissed as was the correct outcome of this incident. Video replays will enable the officials to highlight and punish this sad habit of players falling over and pretending to be injured whenever the opposing player is near them. The officials could then look over the videos and punish the offenders. Maybe then the beautiful game will be able to return to the fields.

The referee and his officials were deplorable and should never be allowed to officiate at this level again.

What a sad way for junior talent to end a competition and even worse to teach our kids that by pretending to be injured you can get players sent off. FIFA really needs to consider some serious changes and remove this ugly element from our game. It was bad enough watching the Italians do it all through the last World Cup.
John, 2007-07-20 17:37:05

Just saw the replays on youtube and although I am not a soccer fan I do feel for the kids who have to play against the other team and a 'ref'.

Someone that flails like a fish holding his head when you clearly were nowhere near his head should be removed from the league.

Looks like that Renaldo guy that plays in Europe.
Trevor, 2007-07-20 17:14:41

It appears that the Chilean team was a victim of it's own antics. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Having watched at least three of their matches they were probably the most "dramatic" team in the competition and seemed to master the dive aspect of the game. For me, I believe they got exactly what the deserved.

As for the first red card, yes it was acting on behalf of the Argentinian player, but how does a ref running from the middle of the pitch know if the player who tumbled with another on the sideline, was kicked in the face or not??? The fact is he should have never made the kicking motion, he doesn't do it, he doesn't get a red card.

As for the incident afterwards with the police, I support the Toronto police's credibility considering the actions of the players during the game; going after the ref making contact with him during and after the game. It was apparent that these players had no control of themselves, which is sad considering all the talent and skill they displayed.

AS for the people commenting on autograph seeking, the police are trying to control the crowds and a having players run out to mingle with fans could cause huge problems with crowd control and possible riot. I'm sure it was explained to the players that it was important to stay on the bus, but once again the Chilean players didn't follow direction.

One more thing, with regards to credibility, when a player states that he was a tazered and then had acid poured on him, I tend to dismiss his claims, unless TO cops carry viles of acid as standard issue.

My answer therefore is yes, the Chilean team tainted the tournament.
Benny Burrito, 2007-07-20 17:12:00

The police are there with the mission to protect visitors players and give them security at all times in a world class event. The police agents in Toronto did the opposite, showing a brutality proper of banana republics. The World Cup could have been a memorable event in Canada, however the very poor officiating in the Chile, Argentina match semi-final (and others) was very disturbing to any soccer follower who understands the game, and left the chileans unable to compete. The chilean players injured during the games and mostly later by the police can not now come up with a team to play for the third place. Due to this, the chilean delegation shoud pack up and leave and make a point that what have taken place is not acceptable. Robert in Saskatchewan.
Roberto Roman, 2007-07-20 17:09:20

Canadiens should be ashamed of how they treat their guests, I think you are a racist country with racist police. We in Chile treat our guests with respect. And of course the police will have a confused version about what really happened. The whole Chilean team are just kids, nothing compared to your big Police officers in my opinion the event was tainted by them.

Isabel Espinoza, 2007-07-20 16:21:39

I have played against Chilean players here in Montreal in the past (Colo Colo, Los Copihues) and they are the dirtiest and biggest sore losers. WE literally had to run to our cars once to escape. Chilean soccer players rarely do not engage in that type of disorder so what happened does not surprise me. Sure the ref. blew the calls but that is no excuse for violence vs. the police. And then they, their governemnt and their media have the GALL to play the victim role. What chutzpah!
Jim, 2007-07-20 16:12:30

Some of these comments are hilarious... I just watched all of the online and news clips of this story, and some people are trying to claim that these Chilean players, who were trying to get at the ref the whole game, who were trying to fight with him after, were the 'victims' of police abuse?! Give me a break - when people who are trying to start a fight on the field get in a fight off the field, they're usually the ones to blame. Further, the police in Canada are not only highly trained and extremely professional, their every move is put under a microscope and analyzed - they wouldn't and/or couldn't get away with being unnecessarily rough. The fact that one Chilean player said that he was electrocuted, woke up and found 10 police officers pummeling him and throwing acid on his face only goes to show how deluded they are! Somehow, the next day is fine - doesn't have a mark on him! Geez. The worst part is that, no matter what is found, the Chileans will believe they were beaten. Just like I'm sure their players believe they were tripped by some phantom foot at they roll around on the field screaming in agony (that one minuet agony that afflicts so many soccer players).
Pat, 2007-07-20 16:09:02

Ian Stewart

Well said. We could all take a lesson in integrity from the women's game.

My beef will never be with the refs. Sure, they make mistakes, but they will always be reacting to the idiot antics of players trying to abuse the rules. I play, watch and generally enjoy soccer. Its just too bad we have so many Hollywood actors signed up.
Brian Aalbers, 2007-07-20 16:04:44

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