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Thu, September 13, 2007

Canadian Pro wrestler Chris Benoit suffered brain damage from his years in the ring that could help explain why he killed his wife, son and himself, a doctor who studied Benoit’s brain said Wednesday.

Steroid use also has lingered as a theory, since anabolic steroids were found in the home and tests conducted by authorities showed Benoit had roughly 10 times the normal level of testosterone in his system when he died.

Benoit suffered brain damage


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When was my day of enlightenment? I'll tell you. The day women started being hit and used to entice teenage boys by having their clothes stripped off of them, if you must know. That change started in the very early 90's, if I recall. I've seen snipets or WWE here and there since then, enough to know it is a disgusting product for dumb people.

You called WWE fans hillbillies. I don't care where they come from. I call them "the lowest common denominator". In other words, society's lowest class. I'm not talking money, I'm talking morality. If you like seeing women hit and used as sexual objects, then yes, I mean you, brother.

If that makes me holier than thou...I accept that. I can live with the tag. Better that than be a scumbag who watches women get mistreated for entertainment. That and the fact that steroids are used like vitamins, because the bigger the body, the better the product, right?

See, the problem I have is this. All people know wrestling is fake deep down, but there is a bit of a blurred line there. I watch Die Hard movies, but I never get up and cheer John MacLean for killing the bad guys. I don't phone Bruce Willis and congratulate him.

Wrestling fans don't observe that line as clearly. I'm not talking about you, necessarily, I'm talking about the guys who are at ringside with the signs and cheering and yelling like they have some say in the outcome. These people frighten me, and they are the ones that this crap caters to. If I'm wrong, why are so many people on this message board calling Benoit a "sports legend". HE WAS AN ACTOR!!!!

If you can't see that, I guess you are probably standing ringside.

McMahon is a marketing genius, but he is also a lowlife for using people to create an empire. He's gotten rich by "enriching" society with sexism, steroids, and violence. What a hero.

'Nuff said.
Ted Richards, 2007-07-27 13:16:31

I don't think it's entirely fair to call Ted hypocritical. The product has changed and he does not find enjoyment anymore. But, it does not afford him the right to put down those that continued to or now enjoy the product.
Dave, 2007-07-27 09:43:29

Ted Richards. What a paragon of virute you are. In one comment here you slam the people who enjoy WWE and pretty much ourightly call them backwoods hillbillies. Then in another post Ted, you admit to watching WWF/WWE back in the day. Tell me Ted when was the day of enlightenment for you? Being just a wee bit hyporcritical are you not? You can finally say Ted that you are evolved and one day your family twig will become a family tree.
Heyseed Calhoun, 2007-07-24 20:19:20

Based on your comments I'm not shocked you watched wrestling back then. Hulk Hogan was more of a hero to kids in the 80's than any star of this generation.

Somewhere along the line Vince McMahon realized that sex and violence sells better than a good guy/bad guy fight for no reason, because the 80's aura of wrestling being real was lost, and as a businessman he made a choice to change his product. It's like many have said, WWE is a male soap opera, but no one is condemning As The World Turns or Susan Lucci for their product.

I don't think all wrestling fans can't think like you, they just chose not to. I don't agree with everything shown, especially the violence involving men vs. women, but I don't crtique the whole show based on one segment. It's more a matter of opinion. I personally feel some of the more violent movies cater to the lower rungs of the evolutionary ladder because those are people just looking for blow'em up action, but some people actually watch the movie for the storyline and how it unfolds. I personally feel the sickness of gun violence is promoted by violent movies and shows and is far worse than the WWE product, but I won't tell you that you don't think of it that way because you can't, I'd say you don't think of it that way because you don't want to.
Dave, 2007-07-24 12:43:35

This will probably shock you - I watched wrestling back in the day. Hulk Hogan, Macho Man Randy Savage, Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, and so on. Even though it was pro wrestling, there was an innocence to it. Eat your vitamins and say your prayers somewhere along the line got switched to ripping women's tops off and hitting them and all this other crap that makes my stomach turn.

I'm actually not offended by violence for adults - most of my favorite movies are violent. But something about WWE really caters to the lowest common denominator. This kind of sickness spreads like crazy in our society, and people need to take a stand. I feel the same way about stuff like Jerry Springer. They're allowed to do it, but should we be cheering? I'm not saying it should be banned, I'm saying people should turn the TV off. Also, I don't go to opera or poetry readings either, I'm a regular guy with a regular family. I love hockey, like baseball and basketball, and watch football too, as well as a load of other sports. These sports still have a level of legitamacy and honor that I gravitate to. I just think people need to do what I did with the WWF/WWE. But if you look at the people who are still "fans", they aren't thinking about it as deeply as I do, for a reason. They can't.
Ted Richards, 2007-07-24 02:22:36

At least we can agree on the Star Wars fans. My point is not whether steroids were a factor, my issue is that the media made roid rage the main factor at first and people wrongfully are clinging to that. Elevated levels of prescribed injected testosterone isn't roid rage, he just probably lost his marbles. Accepting what happened and theorizing are two very different things. Hell, he may have been told by his doctor, who is now under investigation, that taking the testosterone was safe.

One thing I don't do is advocate this for children, because it is not made for children. It is entertainment geared towards males aged 18-34. My children are not allowed to watch it. Anyone that would allow their child to watch it should be slapped and then made to watch countless hours of Barney non-stop. But I would rather actually parent my child instead of pissing and moaning about the problem. To be honest, at this rate I may not let my children watch any sports, lest we continue to support overpaid arrogant people.

I'm not offended by your views on wrestling fans, because we obviously run in different social circles. I myself would not associate with anyone who goes to the opera or poetry readings, those people and events are just not my cup of tea for a variety of reasons. But while you enjoy your Broadway show and wine and cheese, ask yourself how many Broadway stars or upper class organizations went over to Iraq to support and entertain the troops.

Specfically for you here's my view: to use this tragedy as a basis for an anti-WWE campaign is ludacris. Blaming the WWE is like blaming Chevrolet for a speeding ticket in a Corvette (because it is a fast car). Every single human who attains the age of reason has to be accountable for his or her actions, and that is something that should, but usually doesn't, trancend social class. With all due respect, blaming anyone other than Chris Benoit makes you, no matter how elite, educated or refined you are, dumber than a wrestling fan.
Dave, 2007-07-23 22:44:33

Actually, the people that wait in line for Star Wars movies scare me a little, too, yes. But for the most part, they are at least not sexist knuckledraggers, so don't compare normal (albeit nerdy) people with wrestling fans.

Look, call me an elitist, but the majority of people at WWE events are not what you'd call society's best and brightest. You can disagree with me all you want, call me small-minded or whatever, but it is a fact. It is entertainment for dumb people. You can tell me that this doctor and that lawyer is a big fan, wonderful. But most people at these events are not upper class. Most of them are dumb, sexist, violence-hungry fools that I would not associate with on my worst day. If they weren't they'd be at the theatre watching a Broadway show, or at a poetry reading, or maybe at a jazz concert.

If that offends you, too bad.

People who advocate this type of "entertainment" for their kids are comitting child abuse, in my opinion. Like I said, call me an elitist, but I'd rather be an elitist with kids who are interested in real sports and true art than an "enlightened" guy with kids that grow up to stand ringside with a big sign that says "Hey, Rock! Come smell what I just cooked!"

If you think Benoit's murders had nothing to with steroids, you prove my point about how dumb wrestling's fans really are.
Ted Richards, 2007-07-23 16:25:18

So Ted, I guess you've never enjoyed a TV show or movie? To some people fans, or fanatics, of sports teams scare people and feel their actions are out there. People lined up on the street to see the next Star Wars movie - based on your theory that is extreme and crazy, and you are scared by those fans. Star Wars is a movie saga based on galactic wars that have zero chance of ever being a reality, but George Lucas doesn't come on the screen halfway through the movie to explain that.

Wrestling fans accept that it is only entertainment just like any other TV show. It is people like yourself, small-minded, arrogant, or truly simple, that continue to refer to it as a sport, or non-sport.

Blaming the WWE is the real obvious solution for people like yourself. Don't blame the individual, heaven forbid anyone accept responsibility for their actions, but that's where the elitist attitude is going to. It's time to start thinking for yourselves people, don't look for the easy way out, which your anti-WWE answer is. Don't just read the headlines, because you will then know anabolic steroids were not found in Benoits system, so there goes the 'roid rage theory.
Dave, 2007-07-21 19:41:25

Realistically people this is what I want to know. I'm not a police expert and I would never claim to be a journalist. What I want to know is what is the difference between Chris Benoit killing his wife and child and the cracked up nobody who kills his family or someone elses family.I already know the answer. Benoit was a celebrity.Of course it's going to make news but for over 3 weeks now. Come on there has to be better topics to report than this dead horse.Everywhere you look on tv... there it is...wrestling superstar kills wife and son...all these "former"WWE stars who are all Benoit's best friends...everyone has their opinion on favourite was the one by that hammerhead HART...bruce I think.... he could see it in his eyes...why didn't he do something then...if he could foresee the future why not say something...I also like the conspiracy theory about Benoit coming home and his wife screwing some other guy *L* followed up by the comment by Ted have to be lying when you say the X files was NOT a documentary and pro wrestling is dreams are now shattered....don't even go and try to tell me Santa is not real...I see him in the malls every year *LOL* people are entitled to their opinion (as granted to us in our Constitution)as outlandish and crazy they may seem. It's time to let go of this topic. It's old news.
Clay, 2007-07-21 05:47:07

You people are out there, man. What you are proposing is a cover-up by major law enforcement agencies, as opposed to a 'roid freak getting into a rage and killing his wife and child. Are you actually serious? This is why I don't watch or take stuff like the WWE seriously. It's "fans" scare me. I'm serious, you people need to get in touch with someone. Not only do you cheer like mad for a non-sport, but you defend child murderers with the "obvious" explanation that law enforcement agencies have covered up the truth somehow. Call Oliver Stone! It's a conspiracy! I bet you thought the X-files was a documentary, too.

Please, for the love of God, check back in with reality and let this fantasy world you have created go bye-bye forever.
Ted Richards, 2007-07-20 22:39:05

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