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Should the Preds stay in Nashville?
Tue, August 14, 2007

A local group trying to keep the Predators in Nashville is on the verge of signing a letter of intent.

Owner Craig Leipold has been working with a group of local investors to finalize a bid for the team since flying to New York on July 18 for a meeting with NHL officials.

Leipold has been trying to sell his franchise because he said he has lost $70 million since being awarded the team in June 1997.

This might mean that the team is not moving anywhere for now. Is this good news for the NHL?

Preds staying, for now


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tell me wayne what map has all the distances on them from city to city especially from the states to Canada!

I cant believe you are saying they draw circles on a map and measure it using a compass LMFAO.

Tell me the scale they use wayne, how far it is from Buffalo to Hamilton is automatically 50 miles LOL.

You are so clueless its laughable.

Jimmy, 2007-08-13 12:29:14

wayne, Jim Kelly knows more about sports then you can ever hope to know.

Grand standing? LMFAO

Toronto might get a vote, Buffalo DOES NOT. Buffalo is outside the 50 mile radius, try using a string and a pin again on a map fool LMAO.

You know nothing so shut your big mouth and stop pretending you do !!

Your stupidity is amazing in that every day you say something even more lame than the day before.

Buffalo or Toronto didn't stop Hamilton from getting an expansion team when Ottawa and Tampa Bay were awarded them. It was how Ron Joyce wanted to pay the expansion fee over a few years instead of a lump sum like Ottawa and Tampa Bay did to get the expansion teams!
Jimmy, 2007-08-13 12:20:33


Sports writers get their jobs selling papers and controversy sells papers. Any Idiot who gets in his car to prove that its farther than 50 miles is grandstanding.


wayne, 2007-08-12 20:46:04


I said getting tickets to a Red Wings games would be hard as they sell out every year. Buffalo tickets are fairly easy to get.

Of course Bettman is against Canada, how can having a billionaire own a team be bad for the league when a number of American teams are struggling to keep there heads above water.

Having a team in Hamilton that would sell out every game would be better for the league than having thousands of empty seats in several American teams.

Florida, Carolina, New York Islnaders, New Jersey Devils, St.Louis Blues, Phoenix Coyotes, LA Kings are all struggling with lots of empty seats but Hamilton and Winnipeg would be sold out every night is bad for the league ?

Mike the NHL will never get a tv deal like the NFL or NBA that Bettman seems to think he can get. American viewers are watching less and less every year. Hockey isnt even a top 4 sport south of the border so getting a tv deal is a pipe dream. Bettman is living in a fantasy world if he thinks he can get a tv deal any better than there is now. The money being offered to air hockey games has gone down every contract as well.

Its Bettmans huge ego

that is ruining the game in both countries. He will eventually turn of hockey fans here in Canada as he is doing down in the States.

Mike is Kansas a better/bigger market than Hamilton/Southern Ontario ? No it isnt. Kansas City had an NHL back in the mid to late 70's and it moved to Colorado within a few years. So now Atlanta, Kansas and Colorado all get a second chance with only Colorado having success. Atlanta is almost bankrupt and Kansas wont last more than 2 or 3 years before it moves again.

Bettman wasnt thought of very highly by David Stern or he would have offered him more responsibility to stay on with the NBA.

Bettman has to go and the sooner the better for both the States and Canada.
Jimmy, 2007-08-06 14:53:29

I agree with James, Bettman should be fired, but that'll never happen. He did too good a job getting a salary cap, and let's face it, most of the owners are American and do not care what Canadians think as long as there is a hope that some kid in San Antonio will pick up a Crosby jersey and tell his friends about it.

The problem is, that will never happen. With all due respect to my Nashville friend Alex with your stats about youth hockey players growing up and supporting the game, I could guarantee that support tomorrow in Hamilton, Winnipeg, or a host of other cities in Canada that would pack the arenas night in and night out.

The NHL owners and Bettman have this dream...that someday hockey will be a big product all across the southern USA. I'm here to tell you it will never happen. The TV market is just getting thinner and thinnner, and with youth-oriented sports like the ones at the X-games, as well as UFC, etc, if hockey was going to spread, it would have done so already.

All I know is that I don't need to be convinced to watch it. It's in my blood, as it is in the blood of my brothers and sisters across Canada.
Ted Richards, 2007-08-06 00:59:38

Jimmy, you say ottawa is not in the same market as toronto, cause it is 3 hours away, by that reasoning do you consider edmoton/calgary in the same market they are 3 hours away, and have to service all of alberta/sask/northern BC, a area many tiems reffered to by broadcasters especially on the CBC as the heartland of hockey. Even Detroit 4 hours away, and what abotu Buffalo 45min-1 hour away, they are in the same market, cause you dont count drive time from city to city you take half of that for fans betwen cites so 1.5 hours from toronto 1.5 hours from ottawa, 2 hours from detroit, and well Buffalo is less then an hour away, the time spacing is soo close, and for a huge vast majority of the population it takes a lot longer then 2 hours to get to the nearist game. The Southern Ontario Reagion ( yes including detroit and Bufflao which are boarder cities) is saturated and that is why the league is not going to move another team into that area.

James you say that fans in canada close to detroit and buffalo would have to be realy lucky to get tickets to the games there, well then why is it that when ever i have seen a news peice on the boarder and how much thing have changed and are changing do they show canadian fans crossing the boarder to go to the games there? It is the same area you dont stop calling something a general area just becuase there is a boarder in the way, no becuase its geographical. I am not arguing that Hamiltion would not be able to support a team, becuase of course they could. However the league is not going to allienate and piss off the fans in the rest of the continent. You could probably stick a second team in toronto and one in hamiltion, becuase of population. The leauge is never going to do it cause they want to spread the game otu and make it accessible to all its fans and not jsut a few who stomp their feet and have a temper tantrum like a 5 year old, because they are not getting their way.

With the league beign in the cites like Nashiville it is gettin the game out there and allowing it to grow at minor levels, this was very apparent in this years draft a lot more american players in the draft. When interviewed they talked about how hey had a team close buy and they would watch and they got involved. That is what the league wants, that is what the league needs I agree with Alex J and what he said about Nashville, the numbers for teams are all based on season ticket holding and never the average fan that wants to go to the game. It great that, that still exists in Nashville cause it is thouse fans that dont have the season tickets that have the kids that play hockey but cant get to every game but still want to enjoy it. Here in Canada most of the seats are season tickets and the average fan that cant get to every game but would love to go gets screwed because there is no more seats left. Sure that is good for the team but it does hurt some of the fans. Just like Alex J said about the rinks and how teams are being turned away for ice time, that is hockey growing in that market and new areans will be built, more people will go to the games and the sport wil grow. Bettman in an interview during this last season talk about the stats over the last years of new rinks and new teams beign formed in the states. Now why would a league want to take a team away from thouse markets? why would true fans of the game who want the game to grow want to take away from thouse people, and hinder its growth.

Does not everyone deserve to go to an NHL game to enjoy the sport, and to have leagues set up in their towns so their kids can get involved. Bettman and the owners of the teams are thinking about he future of the league and what is best for it. Maybe it is time that some of you here started to do the same, and not act what is in the best intrest of you( cause if everone was like that there would be teams all over canada, red deer, fort mack, medicien hat, saskatoon, regina, a huge amount in ontario and eastern canada, fact is there cannot be teams in each of these markets) but act in what is in the best intrest of the majority of people and act in the best intrest of the game.

Puting a team in Hamilton would only hurt the league fan wise outside of the southern ontario region ( again including detroit and buffalo cause the are in that region) The owners and Bettman know this, and is why they will not allow a team to move there, and a vast majority of fans outside the southern ontario region know this as well, its time for the people of southern ontario region to realize it as well.

Bettman is not against canada, if he was agaisnt canada he would not let the NHL do as much as it does here in canada at the minor leagues. That is not to say that he has not stumbeled on some things, but anyone would, its called beign human. Under Bettman the League is growing and getting better, and he is going to continue to do what is best for the league, and for ALL of its fans
Mike, 2007-08-05 16:23:28

Mike you do not count teams that are not in the Southern Ontario market. Southern Ontario is not a saturated market, how can it be with only 1 team there ? What is with Mike and Wayne and there referals to maps ? Buffalo does not count on hockey fans in Southern Ontario to support there team via ticket sales neither does Detriot. Fans in Windsor and the Windsor area would have to be really lucky to get tickets for there games. There is only 1 team currently in Southern Ontario and that is the Leafs. Hamilton does without a doubt deserve a team as does Winnipeg. Both would be very successful.

Bettman is against Canada its almost disgusting behaviour from a so called commissioner. He should be fired as he is not doing whats best for the NHL by keeping a billionaire like Jim Basillie out of the league, its Bettmans ego that is stopping teams coming here not good businness sense.
James, 2007-08-04 19:02:36


you don NOT know more about the NHL than Jim Kelly. Jim covers the NHL and the Buffalo Sabres. If he says Buffalo doesnt have a veto vote then Buffalo doesnt have a veto vote! stop being a jerk and think you are in the know. you know squat about squat. get this through your thick skull, Buffalo DOES NOT get to vote on Hamilton getting a team. Buffalo is out of the 50 mile radius, why you dont understand that is beyond me. Only team that is in the way MAYBE the make me laffs. The courts will decide if the make me laffs can stop a team moving to Hamilton not you!!

Jim Kelly wouldnt say Buffalo doesnt have a vote if they did, that would be making him as a professinal sports writer look like he knows nothing like you always do LOL. Jim kelly lives outside Buffalo he measured the distance in his car on his way to Toronto where he works on the radio and on tv which I know you didnt know or do you have a clue who he is. get real and stop talking about topics you know nothing about but act like you do LOL.
Jimmy, 2007-08-04 18:25:14


There are NOT 4 teams in Southern Ontario. Ottawa is in eastern Ontario, 3 hours away from Toronto so they arent in the same market. Ottawa is actually closer to Montreal than Toronto. Buffalo isnt in Southern Ontario either so dont count them. Detroit is 4 - 5 hours from Toronto so they to are not in the same market. Which Canadian city is closer than Toronto to Detriot that has a NHL team ? Hamilton can and will support a second team in the southern ontario market. Yes Buffal and Detroit border Ontario, but they have there own markets so they wont be affacted unless you count the Canadians that support American teams that cross the border to see a game. Toronto does not have the right to think people from Burlington to Niagara Falls, Burlington to Kitchener etc should be there fans only. There are 6 - 7 million people within an hours drive of Hamilton to support a team. Southern Ontario is the most populated area in all of Canada, so why cant we have 2 teams close to each other when american cities have 2 or 3 pro teams ? That doesnt make any sence to me especially when Canadians are hockey mad.
Jimmy, 2007-08-04 11:09:24


You are right, there isnt any territorial fees owed when a team moves. Just as its not in the NHL By-Laws about where a team can and cant move. Once Basillie buys a team he can move it anywhere he wants, he can challenge the NHL in court and he and his lawyer know they will win just like Al Davis did with the NFL. The league said he couldnt move from L.A. to Oakland so he took the league to court and WON.

Jimmy, 2007-08-04 10:55:12

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